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Connecticut Democrats introduce bill to re-organize Catholic church hierarchy

Yes, it’s fascism – the deliberate intrusion of the state to impose their worldview and values onto people with different, individual worldviews and values. You see, the state’s religious and moral views are more important than those of individuals. Any organization that teaches different values needs to be taken over by the state – it’s the progressive way.

Gateway Pundit cites this post from The Corner:

The [Democrat]-controlled Judiciary Committee has introduced Raised Bill 1098, a bill aimed specifically at the Catholic Church, which would remove the authority of the bishop and pastor over individual parishes and put a board of laymen in their place.

Hot Air notes that the government cannot legislate against religious organizations with voluntary membership. It is illegal:

According to the First Amendment and the Establishment Clause, the government has no business dictating to religious organizations how they should structure themselves.

Hot Air goes on to explain what the effects of the bill would be:

In other words, bishops would no longer have power over the actions of the parishes.  That’s the Connecticut legislature’s vision of Roman Catholicism, but in America, government doesn’t get to structure religious organizations to suit itself.  That, in fact, is a form of fascism that we routinely decry in other countries.  The State Department objects to China’s insistence on picking Catholic bishops itself to suit their political oppression of religion, and Lawlor’s motion would find a welcome in Beijing as another means to the same end: state control of Catholicism.

So many people toss around the word fascism without understanding what it means. Having the state control churches is fascism.

RedState.com notes that Connecticut’s own Constitution forbids single out any one sect or denomination in legislation.

Before we go any further, let me quote from Article Seventh of the Connecticut state constitution: “It being the right of all men to worship the Supreme Being, the Great Creator and Preserver of the Universe, and to render that worship in a mode consistent with the dictates of their consciences, no person shall by law be compelled to join or support, nor be classed or associated with, any congregation, church or religious association. No preference shall be given by law to any religious society or denomination in the state. Each shall have and enjoy the same and equal powers, rights and privileges, and may support and maintain the ministers or teachers of its society or denomination, and may build and repair houses for public worship.”

LifeSiteNews has an article explaining that this bill is an attempt to pay Catholics back for supporting traditional marriage as the best environment for children. The Maritime Sentry agrees. The left-wing northeastern states have been very hostile to Catholicism lately, even going so far as to effectively ban Catholic adoption agencies for failure to comply with politically correct dogma.

A majority of the Catholic voters voted for Democrats in 2008. They voted 54% to 45% in favor of Barack Obama. What I would like my Catholic readers to explain to me is – Why? How?

UPDATE: I just saw this post over at Deborah Gyapong: Catholic hospitals must perform abortions or be shut down.

UPDATE 2: Nice Deb has ways to take action here.

UPDATE 3: Welcome visitors from the Anchoress! Thanks for the link. More religious liberty here (conscience rule for abortion dissenters) and here (fairness doctrine would affect religious radio broadcasts) and here (stimulus bill discriminates against religious schools). Bonus: free speech in Canada.

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  1. ECM says:

    What I would like my Catholic readers to explain to me is – Why? How?

    Speaking as a former Catholic, I think I might have a tiny piece of the answer: Catholicism, primarily in Western Europe and North America, has become so debased since the easing of ‘restrictions’ via Vatican II, that it has become less a religion (with all that true, bedrock, faith demands) and more a glorified social club. (This isn’t true amongst *all* congregations but, sadly, I think it is true for the vast majority.)

    The fact is, Catholics don’t really take their faith very seriously anymore for a wide variety of reasons:

    Vatican II: if there’s one thing that irritates me about religion in general, it is the gradual watering down of what, logically, should be an institution that exists outside of temporal, i.e. day-to-day and year-to-year, concerns–the fact that Vatican II appeared to be nothing more, in the end, than a desperate response from the Church that felt it was losing ‘relevance’ in a benighted age but, in line with the law of unitended consequences, didn’t quite grasp that if you are ‘selling’ Truth, you damn well better not make massive, sweeping, changes to that Truth as time marches on. (Which isn’t to say changes don’t happen, but you generally don’t stake out a position in the sand and say: “OK, yesterday we believed that and today we believe this“, rather than letting those changes occur gradually, over hundreds and thousands of years.)

    You can see the same thing in mainline Protestantism in the West, dying a slow, ingloriuos, death of a thousand cuts as they defenstrate any and all doctrines or beliefs that might upset someone in the multi-culti PC world (ordination of gays; support for abortion; female ‘priests'; ‘social justice’ warranting greater emphasis than worshipping God; etc.)

    Incidentally, this is probably why Evangelical Chrisitianity is so popular: it doesn’t make excuses for what it believes and strength in belief will attract a great many people simply for believing in something without a constant string of caveats and disclaimers attached to every belief, dogma and Truth (see: Islam in many parts of the world, even if it is a death cult based on any honest reading of the Koran and the Haddiths.)

    Politics: look at Catholic (and, to an even greater extent, Protestant) politicians in the US and Western Europe and what do you see? A bunch of people that appear to believe very little in Church doctrine, despite being chastened/corrected by priests, bishops, popes, etc. And since they go around playing up their ‘faith’ (when it’s actually wickedness of the worst kind) while selling their constituents on abortion and the non-doctrine of ‘separation of church and state’, is it any wonder that a great, great many Catholics see no conflict between their watered-down faith and voting for an anti-Christian (not Christ!) like Barack Obama?

    General Moral Decay: I’m not sure I even need to mention this, but it’s pretty obvious that since ‘organized’ (i.e. non-evangelical) religious institutions have given away so much of the ‘game’ for the past 50-odd years in light of a degrading moral landscape (note: when fighting a war, it doesn’t help that you find lots of common cause–and preach about it!!–with your mortal enemy), it stands to reason that people are going to (happily and without much guilt) go sliding down that slippery slope when you keeping giving them more reasons to do so, and couched in theology to boot! (The final point about theology is more a barb at the risable state of Protestants, mind you.)

    Anyway, that’s my (short) take on ‘what’s the matter w/ Catholics (and lots of other faiths, besides)” and how it’s pretty easy to get from point A (I’m a Catholic and should be opposed to abortion as almost no other sin) to point B (voting for a man that elevates that sin almost to a virtue).

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